{ADDENDUM: In the comments section below this post, I address some of the confusion this post has caused. The most important items are these: First, every review bears the responsibility of telling you exactly why a series of poems is doing important work, and exactly what that work is; second, blurbs and reviews can by no account be confused, for many reasons, but primarily because two absolutely essentially ingredients in the sort of reviews I'm speaking of are a) the reviewer has no substantial personal connection to either the poet or the work under review, and b) the reviewer is selecting work for review out of an enormous archive of submitted and unsubmitted work, rather than being solicited to write on just one book without in any sense comparing it to hundreds and hundreds of others. There are many more/other distinctions drawn in the comments section, below.}
Also, A Plan to Put a Poetry Review Column in Every Media Outlet in America and Bring About a Golden Age of American Poetry
[Find Part II here].
We've heard the case made, again and again, that poetry reviews offering unqualified praise of the books they consider are without merit. Most recently, noted academic Marjorie Perloff observed, with evident disdain, that these days "[f]ew poetry books get reviewed at all, and when they do they are almost always given unqualified praise." So what's the opposing case? Is there any justification for this avalanche of positivism (in both senses of that word)?
Imagine, for a moment, that driving a car is one of the most important things in your life. It's not actually that hard to imagine, as in certain respects it's probably already true for many of us. Now imagine that we live in a world in which -- for whatever reason; say, because the lifespan of cars just dropped dramatically -- purchasing a car is a monthly necessity rather than something you do every five to ten years. Now imagine, finally, that there are 70,000 individual car models to choose from in the United States. Under those circumstances, how much use could or would you make of a prancing, prattling idiot who only told you which cars not to buy, two or three cars at a time? You might well tell such a person, "Look, telling me not to purchase a Ford Flex or a Honda CRV still leaves me with 69,998 car models I know nothing about, and I need and want to buy a car now, so how is this helping me?" And you might well add to that admonishment, "Can't anyone out there help me figure out which cars I should buy?"
There's reason to believe that, in the 1940s and 1950s, 5,000 or fewer poets were regularly publishing their work in the United States. The number of venues in which such work could and did appear was very small; Ashbery has said that when he started publishing it was basically Poetry or nothing. (And while much of the best work of the time was, we now know, appearing in tiny magazines sold only in certain locales, a poet-critic in New York City advising a poet living in Tulsa to read some obscure 125th Street rag entirely inaccessible to Oklahomans only carries us so far.) It's also true that in the 1940s and 1950s literary studies departments were dominated by New Critics, which meant -- in other words -- that literary scholarship was heavily invested in what now would be termed "mainstream" poetries (i.e., poetries whose rhetorical schema lay squarely within the classical lyrical tradition). So if it happened that you were reading Poetry in 1955, and saw in its pages a few "positive" reviews but also some pretty historic takedowns, it was neither a surprise nor a disaster -- as you could pretty well wade through the poetry then being published yourself, and if you couldn't you could still use the parallel discourse happening on college and university campuses to augment your knowledge of the vast middle swath of American poetics. As to the liminal spaces of poetry, those could be talked about to death in the press (not that they were) but without the Internet it hardly would've mattered to you, as you wouldn't have been able to get your hands on their limited-edition press-runs anyway unless you lived within a few blocks of the shabby apartment those hundred copies were issuing from. (Most of which went to friends and family and well-networked Others, anyway.)
Today, there are over 70,000 working poets in America, countless thousands of online and print literary magazines, and no possibility whatsoever that anyone could have a handle on what's out there. Being told what not to read is an increasingly pointless proposition, as "What's actually out there?" has replaced "What are people saying about what's out there?" as the most pressing question on every poetry-reader's lips. The poetry reviews of the 1940s and 1950s were appropriate for their time; not just for the reasons stated above, but also because the close connection then evident between literary studies and working writers -- as this was before "creative writing" would drive a permanent wedge between the two -- meant that poetry reviews in Poetry actually were contributing to the then-extant scholarship on American poetry, creating a unified (if contentious) discourse that had multiple access-points for average poetry-readers.
The poetry reviews of the 2010s are being asked to meet very different demands. For instance:
1. Increasing competition for the dwindling and/or overextended pecuniary resources devoted to American poetry, and the diminishing audience size for individual publishing efforts (simply because there are so many) provides additional incentive for cronyism to replace the sort of "subjective objectivity" normally at the heart of public literary assessment. Consequently, a worthwhile poetry review series has strong policies in place to prevent books being reviewed by friends of the authors assessed.
2. The increasing diversity of American aesthetics and poetics means that poetry-readers' tastes are (likewise) more diversified now than at any other point in American history. Consequently, a worthwhile poetry review series is also one that reviews a large number of books of varying aesthetics and poetics -- the better to reach a panoply of audiences and to speak to myriad tastes and predilections.
3. A good literary critic is one whose real-time access to a wide range of literature is significantly greater than the average reader, thus ensuring that the critic is serving the vital "culling" function most poetry-readers cannot adequately meet themselves due to time, inclination, and monetary constraints. Consequently, a worthwhile poetry review series is one whose submission and eligibility policies are broad enough to ensure that books are being compiled from every available source, not merely selected sources (for instance, as would be the case with, say, a poetry review series which only accepted work from publishers, or only reviewed work published in the last thirty days, or exhibited clear favoritism toward one particular type of press -- independent, university, or trade -- or one particular geographic region, like New York City or California).
4. Given all of the above phenomena, the average poetry reader has less time and capacity to determine what's worth reading than ever before -- not because of a lack of critical faculty (in fact, the ubiquity and range of critical faculties has probably been raised, on average, by the rise of "creative writing" in America) but, as noted already, a lack of time and energy and resources and the impossibility of coming into direct contact with even a fraction of the poetry being published today. Consequently, a worthwhile poetry review series offers advice on what's worth reading and why, and which views the critical function as operating at the level of selection-for-review, rather than at the level of the book (the former methodology being one which implicitly contains the latter in any case). Another reason this development is an important one is that an ever-increasing percentage of poetry-readers are also (often MFAed) poetry-writers, and if there's one thing poets feel qualified to determine under their own steam, it's what they don't like. Most poets are far more invested in finding the next big thing they're going to absolutely fall in love with (for the obvious reasons, but also because most poets I know secretly admit to getting "bored" with poetry faster than a non-poet might) rather than rehashing -- or butting heads over -- their personal tastes and distastes.
5. Given the hundred-year process of specialization and marginalization that American poetry has undergone, a worthwhile poetry review series is also one that makes a conscious effort to reach the broadest possible audience. We have more resources at our fingertips now than ever before to broadcast any message across the widest possible spectrum of listeners, so there's no excuse any longer for poetry -- or poetry criticism -- to self-ghettoize in its selection of which media and media outlets to employ.
I can appreciate the wariness with which one naturally approaches any form of poetry criticism whose economy of scale is at the level of the archive rather than the level of collection -- even if it's this sort of attention to "the archive" that distinguishes today's most exciting and well-received avant-garde movements and first principles. Still, we historically have imagined critics as ornery so-and-sos, and not spirited, experienced, (possibly) trained or educated enthusiasts who've simply done so much reading of contemporary poetry (helped along by superlative access to recent works in the genre) that they might well be able to start winnowing down those 70,000 contemporary poets to an entirely non-exhaustive yet still more manageable list of (say) sixty or seventy per year. If there's one thing we've learned from macroanalytical criticism like Franco Moretti's -- an Italian scholar who imports quantitative methods from the social sciences to analyze literary phenomena on a historical spectrum (rather than entrenching, instead, the New Criticism-inflected obsession with the [single] book) -- it's that certain data, such as the number of practicing poets, the number of presses and magazines, the number of graduate creative writing programs, even the number of scholarly dissertations written on generally "mainstream" poets today as compared to 1945, is absolutely essential to deductively acknowledging localized phenomena. With the literary studies sector of the academy now broadly retreating into consideration of only a very small number of avant-garde movements, poets and other poetry-readers are left without any bona fide opportunity to receive assistance in culling down their reading lists even a bit. If today's poetry critics choose to indulge their egos rather than serve their communities -- and make no mistake about it, it's far more satisfying (and far more consistent with the native temperament of the poet-critic) to skewer a colleague's work -- today's poetry enthusiasts will not be better-served, but worse.
But there's one other aspect of poetry-reviewing that hasn't yet been noted: It's almost entirely online, now. Even print publications are publishing their reviews largely or exclusively online.
And here's another (related) thing: America now has the largest population of aspiring poets and writers willing to do poetry-related stuff for free -- witness the flowering of new small presses, poetry-in-the-schools volunteer programs, state-prison poetry workshops, and so on, many of which are staffed by MFA students who've learned through their programs that poetry is as much a community as an art-form (something the poets of the San Francisco Renaissance and the Beat Generation also believed) -- which means that America now has the largest population of potential poet-critics in its history. (Because these days poetry-reviewing is hardly ever paid for, and those who insist on payment either don't review for long or else receive mail addressed to "William Logan").
And here's one final (also related) thing: Most media outlets are now online, and are desperate for content. So someone tell me, why aren't thousands and thousands of MFA graduates querying the San Jose Mercury News, the Houston Chronicle, the Arizona Republic, the Tampa Bay Times, or the Detroit Free Press offering to write, for free, an online poetry review column for these websites? Any of those media outlets would, if they ran a poetry review series, immediately become one of the most visible media outlets in the nation to consider contemporary poetry on a regular basis -- as right now their competition is largely comprised of well-intended but variously obscure entities like Bookslut, Coldfront, Ron Slate's personal blog, and several even smaller venues. So what does the editor of the Detroit Free Press have to lose if a terminal-degree-holding MFA graduate with a few literary publications under her belt says to herself, "Hey, I haven't yet figured out what to 'do' with my MFA, and I'm still working on becoming the best poet I can be, but in the meantime why don't I give back to my community by bringing writing about contemporary poetry to an audience of millions? I have the time, the love of poetry, and the ready access to contemporary works, so why not?" The worst the editor of the Detroit Free Press says to that poet is "no." Well, so what if she does? Our hypothetical MFA graduate just moves on to the 3,000 other newspapers in the U.S. which would constitute more visible venues for poetry criticism than the ones we presently have.
And if even a handful of MFA graduates take up this call -- which taking-up, need I point out, would benefit them as much as it does their community and the poets they advance in their archive-attendant criticism -- suddenly contemporary American poetry might just have its first Golden Age. Not too shabby.
Sunday, July 15, 2012
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I don't follow the cars analogy that you start with. If I had to choose a car every month or so, I wouldn't trust a critic or journal that was only telling me why every car under the sun was brilliant; I'd trust one that seemed discerning and honest enough to let me know which ones are better and which are worse, relative to one another.
That said, poetry and cars aren't the same thing. I feel like there's a good argument and a bad argument rolled up in one here. The good argument is that reviews don't have to be damning/negative etc to be critical and to serve a critical function. So yes, demanding that there be broadly negative reviews to counterbalance the positive ones seems fallacious.
On the other hand, as a defence of a reviewing culture that is inclined towards hyperbole and constantly trying to out-praise the critic next door so that the reader is more convinced by your glowing review than his, I'm not at all convinced.
Jon,
I'm sorry, I must have misread you: a critic who praises 60 to 70 books of poetry out of the thousands and thousands of poetry collections published each year is in no way whatsoever -- whatsoever -- "telling me why every car under the sun is brilliant." That's what I mean by deploying the critical faculty at the level of the archive -- determining which books, out of thousands, to promote -- rather than the level of the book (taking a book out, as at random -- itself a fallacy -- and then applying to it an acontextual and ultimately [in the big picture] irrelevant assignation of value). Nor, when there are 70,000 poets out there producing work, is the critic who's going to take merely two books of poetry and "let you know which one is better and which is worse, relative to one another" going to be someone who adds to your poetry-reading experience very much. You're likely to reply, "OK, don't read Abramson, read _________ -- now what?"
I think one of the primary reasons we don't trust the exuberance of critics is that, historically, our national poetry publications have in too many instances permitted reviews by those who know the poet. If I never had to worry, "Is this seeming hyperbole the product of personal affinity?" I don't think I would be bothered by critical exuberance, provided the review also offered some salient facts about the work being recommended.
S.
Hi Seth,
"... a critic who praises 60 to 70 books of poetry out of the thousands and thousands of poetry collections published each year is in no way whatsoever -- whatsoever -- 'telling me why every car under the sun is brilliant.'"
That depends whether he's praising those books because those are the ones he's been given to review or because - as is likely - most of those thousands and thousands haven't appeared on his radar.
The distrust of such a critic is the distrust of being sold to. It's not necessarily that we think he knows the poet, or is corrupt, but that he sees his primary function, when visible, as being to promote, as being an advocate of poetry rather than a help to the reader. How is the critic then distinguishable from the salesman? If he is exercising his critical faculty 'at the level of the archive', where is the proof that he has given these other books fair hearing but decided that they're best left to one side? Is it more likely that he's read all 50-60 poetry books released this month and carefully selected the few worth recommending, or that he has come, by whatever process, to read only a handful and decided he has to perform the function of promoting them to a wider audience by whatever powers of persuasion are at his disposal?
The process of comparing what is stronger against what is weaker is useful because it gives us a better insight into what critical values he is employing, which helps us make up our mind on whether we will like the same books he does. When everything is described in variations of 'original', 'powerful', 'moving', 'exciting' etc, we gain little insight into how the critic makes such judgements. That's why I'm bothered by exuberance - it seems all too often a bit of a smokescreen, as more and more elaborate ways are found of asserting the same broad value judgements.
Jon,
It's possible that I didn't make clear enough in my initial post that the ideal poetry review series not only takes books from every possible source, and not only keeps books "eligible" for consideration for many years after they are published, but also does not rely solely on submitted books to make decisions about which reviews to run. My own library of poetry collections is probably at about 1,500 collections, more than 85% of which are from the last decade; each month I review five to ten books out of that collection plus the stock of books submitted to me for review (at present, perhaps 100/month). Even if I only worked from the books submitted to me for review by publishers and authors, I'd be reviewing only 5% of what was sent to me -- hardly an "every car under the sun" rate of endorsement.
But more importantly, the salesman has a vested interest in his/her "product"; the critic, assuming a strict policy prohibiting cronyism, does not. So, no -- a critic is not "selling" a book when and where he derives absolutely no direct or indirect benefit whatsoever from recommending that book to readers. Nor is recommending a book "promoting it" any more so than, as has been the case for hundreds of years, poetry reviews have provided de facto promotion of the books they consider. By that measure, in fact, we'd have to say that negative reviews often "promote" a book even more than positive reviews, because a) negative reviews always garner more attention for a book than positive reviews do, at least in the contemporary American poetry community, and b) the differential between the level of visibility a book "deserves" and the level it gets, as between a good book well reviewed and a bad book poorly reviewed, is much, much higher in the latter case than the former.
I'll just add how very obtuse the distinction you're making is between the poetry critic who writes a positive review and is merely trying to "help the reader" and the poetry critic who writes a positive review and knows that writing that review will necessarily "promote" the book to readers who haven't yet been exposed to it. I don't see a hair's bit of difference between those two critics or those two reviews, unless you're referring (in the first instance) to a scholarly review of a book, which of course is a review that approaches work only from the academic standpoint, i.e. asking "What does this contribute to the literature?" But we're not speaking of scholarly books, scholarly presses, scholarly reviews, or even scholars at all in this instance.
As to "where is the proof that he has given these other books fair hearing?" -- that's absurd. We never get that sort of proof in life, and certainly not in poetry-publishing; we have to make our own best determination of whose integrity we can trust and whose we can't. For instance, "where is the proof that" when I didn't win that contest last month, I was given a fair reading? I have no proof. I have to take it on faith. "Where is the proof" that magazine editors give an equal reading to every submission? Nowhere. There is no proof. We have to trust editorial processes to be ethical because, really, we have no other choice -- with one major exception. If I don't trust your press, magazine, or review series to be ethical, I can always pack up my eyeballs and put my money away and stop reading and/or patronizing that press, magazine, or review series.
[cont.]
I am absolutely confident that no one reading my reviews has any real question about the "critical values" I am employing in assessing work; it is as easy to establish those values by saying "this is what this critic considers good" as by saying "this is what this critic considers bad." In other words, if I don't ever laud a book for being in quatrains, and/or never review a book entirely written in quatrains, we should assume that books in quatrains are not my bag; I'll agree with you that it takes longer to assess a critic's predilections when you have only positive rather than both positive and negative reviews to work from, but the same could be said for those who publish fewer rather than more reviews, shorter rather than longer ones, &c. And I publish a large number of reviews on a very regular basis, so I don't doubt folks reading the review series I personally run have already developed a sense of where my personal interests stand.
I don't know where you're getting the idea that I think "everything" (i.e. "every book") should be described in "variations of 'original', 'powerful', 'moving', 'exciting,' etc" -- that's a straw man because I never, not once, suggested that I believe that's the way to describe a poetry collection. Sure, on occasion one might note that a collection about the death of the author's mother is "moving," or that a book written entirely in pig Latin is "original," or that a book that's orphic and declarative in its approach to lyricism is "powerful," but in each instance the reader is being told the "what" before any gloss is being applied via adjectival exposition.
If you're suspicious of exuberance because you consider it (without proof) to be a smokescreen, then yes, you personally, feeling that way, should probably avoid any critic who permits a higher quota of exuberance than you deem appropriate. I don't disagree with you there.
Be well,
Seth
Poet and scholar Mike Theune weighs in (he asked me to post this; Blogger wasn't working right):
"Hi, Seth,
You seem to suggest that “cronyism” and a “personal affinity” between a reviewer and the author of the book under review are some central stumbling blocks to the writing of fair reviews. They certainly are. But your definition of a fair review also seems to be one in which the critic “derives absolutely no direct or indirect benefit *whatsoever* from recommending that book to readers.” However, it seems to me that positive reviews can accrue all sorts of indirect benefits—certainly more than (even judicious) negative reviews. Who knows the positive effects of a positive review in this still rather tightly-knit world of contemporary American poetry? For example, it certainly can’t hurt to write positive reviews of books by those in positions of institutional power—granting agencies, MFA programs. Certainly, in some ways, though the reviewer may not intend it, this might grease the wheels a bit. Or, at least it won’t gum up the works.
As you know, much has been written about the necessity of negative reviews in contemporary American poetry. For example, check out Jason Guriel’s “Going Negative” (http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/article/183377) and the roundtable discussion Kent Johnson organized around Guriel’s article (http://www.maydaymagazine.com/issue1JOHNSON.php). Following from such conversations, I gotta say that, for my money, judicious reviews (which allow the possibility of “going negative”) reveal that the reviewer is discerning and brave, willing to stick her/his neck out for an aesthetic judgment s/he has and holds to—I *know* that’s someone I want to at least pay attention to.
Now, I’m not saying that one needs to be a martyr to be a good reviewer. (Though some very interesting reviewers are—for example, Dan Schneider over at cosmoetica.com) However, I’d be much more inclined to see “selection-for-review” as a real critical function if the review process itself were made *explicit*--not just “I’m reviewing these eight books out of nameless hundreds,” but rather “I’m reviewing these eight books instead of [and then list the titles and authors of those books that were selected for review].” Then, as a reader, I will know better, more fully, what choices in fact have been made. I also will have been convinced that the reviewer really is someone willing to take a stand.
Collegially,
Mike"
Mike,
You make a good point -- and I'm not in any sense saying that anything you've said isn't true. It _is_ true, I concede it. Though I choose what to review simply based on what I admire and believe needs to be looked at more closely by more people than it presently is, there's no question that the poets I review -- who in most every case are people I've never met or spoken to in any way -- often write me afterwards thanking me, which I certainly appreciate but which also (I'll admit) is an interesting position for a reviewer to be in, because of course I reviewed the book because it was my _job_, and not to make anyone happy (though I obviously _like_ the idea that something I'm doing is bringing some joy into the world, somewhere).
But what I'd do is approach your idea from the other end: Is the negative review actually functional in a community in which those who write negative reviews are _punished_ severely by every single person even tangentially connected with the reviewed author? I'm someone who's been blacklisted by dozens of editors and publishers on the basis of research I've done that made certain people unhappy; I kept doing that research anyway because I truly believed (and continue to believe) in what that research brings into the world, but that's not something we can blithely expect of most people -- i.e., I'm an exception because I'm an idiot, not because I have stronger principles than others. Plenty of people with strong principles make the decision to simply eschew controversy by not doing controversial research and not writing negative reviews at all; they're not shirking a responsibility, they're just not engaging in the first place. So what I'm asking is, can a community which does its best to destroy the life of anyone who regularly makes others in the community displeased honestly then turn around and say, "If you won't write negative reviews, you're pandering"? Because we could as easily say, "Negative reviewing is a broken system due to the sociology of poetry communities; so how can we make positive reviewing work -- i.e., how can we make it meaningful, instructive, and honorable?"
You may say I'm overstating the punishments meted out by displeasing people in the poetry community; I think that'd be missing the point, which is wholly a procedural one: It only takes one person writing on a blog that William Logan is a dick for Logan to say to himself, "Yeah, this might not be worth it..." It only takes one person threatening to assault me at a national conference, or posting death threats against me online, or accusing me of crimes I never committed (and whose alleged victims are people I've never heard of in my entire life) for me to say, "Yeah, gonna stick to poetry-writing..."
Just so, how confident are you that we're getting the best _people_ to write those negative reviews -- i.e., people with the sort of judgment you'd actually care to be exposed to and listen to -- when on the other end we're not doing _anything_ to protect negative reviewing so that the most qualified folks will step up? If I were really into negative reviews, I'd say, "Well, I want Zachary Schomburg to do them, because he represents a sort of movement under way, so I want to see what he thinks..." But we don't get that. We get Jason Guriel and Dan Schneider, who may or may not be good reviewers, and may or may not be good poets (or poets at all), but who certainly are not people whose names I've ever heard connected to their poetry. In other words, isn't what you're proposing taking us down the road where only non-poets will ever review poetry, i.e. where the academy (in the literary studies sense) gets more of a "say" on what we should be reading than the colleagues of ours we respect the most?
Those are a few initial thoughts.
S.
P.S. There's a sense in which I think your objection comes down to a matter of trust. You're asking, for instance, "How do I know this person really selected this book from a large stock of others, i.e. employed the critical function in real-time?" And then, as evidence for that proposition, you're looking for "proof" of the critic's willingness to "take a stand," with that proof coming in the form of the critic saying, "I deliberately did _not_ choose these books, which I consider inferior!" But here's the thing: If we were to assume for a moment that the reader trusted the critic's claims of having selected the books from a large stock of possible titles, what would be the difference between _that_ scenario (in which the critic _implicitly_ _must_ have discarded many titles not featured) and the one you envision, in which that discarding is _explicit_? The same process obviously happens in both instances, but in one instance I take it on faith and in the other I don't. As I pointed out to Jon, above, the poetry community runs almost _entirely_ on faith, and so I'm wondering why that doesn't apply to reviews also. I speculate that it's because the review is a scholarly "genre," and so the economy of trust that poets take as an article of faith -- lacking any other choice -- is denied by the implicit culture of scholarship which both lies behind poetry-reviewing and also has no truck with any alleged "economy of trust." One reason I thought I'd be a good candidate for the kind of "trust" I'm speaking of is that I've been called (if you can believe it) the most infamous man in American poetry -- ridiculous, I know -- but it certainly does telegraph to people that I'm willing to make distinctions between things, risk having hundreds and hundreds of people send me books I don't review (which often displeases people), and only recommend things I really believe in. You and I could think of many people, I'm sure, with no such anti-establishment history and therefore no presumptive stock of trust (albeit only a certain _kind_ of "trust") among the reading public.
I'd be happy to list all the books I receive for review, but there are two problems: (1) Huffington Post articles have a word limit; (2) all books remain eligible for review for ten years, so I couldn't list all books I've received, only those received which will not be reviewed. I'd do that, but where would I post it? Hmm... perhaps a link on the essay to a post on my blog listing the unselected books? That might work... would this satisfy you/others?
More from Mike Theune:
"Hi, Seth,
Thanks for your response.
Yes, in the American poetry scene few more than you know the ramifications of trying to do fair, judicious, revelatory work. That truly sucks. I’d add this wrinkle: just wait til you start writing letters of recommendations—that little procedure becomes much more difficult (and potentially much less effective) if something you published offended a person you’re trying to persuade with a letter of rec for a student or a colleague. Alas.
About the place of the negative review in American poetry today: some of my ideas can be found here. I don’t think negative reviews work well if the review is a short review of a single book. In that case, I’m with you, Seth: why bother? But reviews are not always shorter reviews of single books by individual authors. There are, among other kinds of reviews, longer, more in-depth reviews that examine multiple books, and reviews that examine, say, anthologies. These are great opportunities for critics to exercise judiciousness, showing, perhaps, how one collection fails at an undertaking while another succeeds, or else revealing both the weaknesses and strengths of an anthology, or a movement. In such ways, I think negative reviews can (while always remaining tricky, risky) be functional. (We’re lucky to have some critics who in fact write such reviews—high on my list of these critics is Mark Halliday.)
Of course, there may be some reviewers who are not at all concerned with the functionality of negative reviews. In our conversation, Seth, you and I seem to have in mind a reviewer who has some career aspirations in poetry, but not all reviewers—say, an active poet outside of the academy who also writes reviews to take on (and take down) collections, movements, perspectives s/he finds specious—will have such career aspirations.
And there always will be idiots, glorious idiots! I like that you say, Seth, about being an idiot, but I don’t believe you at all. In your work, you saw some facts (or, rather, painstakingly gathered facts) that put into question a whole host of claims that were being made about MFA programs, and you entered the conversation in order to make that conversation more honest. That’s not idiocy, that’s principled behavior. If that’s not valued in contemporary American poetry, well, then bully for all of contemporary American poetry.
About your postscript, Seth, I’d say that I like very much what you mention in your final paragraph. Online, word limits don’t really need to hold anyone back anymore: sure, link to a list on your blog, if you want. This certainly would begin to satisfy my desire for more explicitness. However, changing your reviewing process might, of course, change the reviews themselves. For example, *you* might also feel compelled by this process to, say, reflect on a book (or a group of books) that was on your shelves for ten years and that is about to drop off—why did you feel they were *not* worthy of comment? That is, you may decide that some collections should go out with a bang instead of a whimper…
[cont.]
About faith: in the kinds of conversations we’re discussing, Seth, I don’t like it, and I don’t want to have to need it. I certainly believe that you are selecting the books you review from a large stockpile—I believe what you say about this process. But, on the one hand, this isn’t really that informative—virtually all reviewers do this…typically, one only ever reviews a small percentage of what one reads. So, *if* there is, as you say there is (and as I believe there is), an important critical function at play in your selection process, that process itself should be revealed. And, on the other hand, one *could* speculate (I want to be *very* clear here that I do *not* believe what I’m about to write—but this is not about me, but rather about “trust” or “faith” in general about your reviewing, Seth) that your positive reviews are a reaction to the hits you’ve taken due to your work with MFA rankings—such positive reviews *could* be seen as a salve, an attempt to show your more generous side, to smooth some ruffled feathers, and then, I imagine, all trust, all faith, would dissipate.
Let me say it again: I don’t believe in any way that you’re being unscrupulous or insincere in your reviewing, Seth. Of course I don’t! But it’s an imaginable scenario, one that would diminish “faith” in your reviews. So, the more that you (or anyone) can create / take on reviewing practices that call for less faith and more explicitness, more clear judiciousness, the better.
Thanks for all your good work, Seth, and for this engaging conversation in particular—
Collegially,
Mike"
Hi Mike,
I'd put reviews of anthologies in a different category -- not as a cop-out, but in fact for just the reasons I've been saying: Those reviews are intended to serve a very different purpose, and the risks inherent in negatively reviewing anthologies are commensurately less -- authors with one poem in an anthology have much less at stake than they do with entire collections of their own, and moreover criticism of anthologies is almost always conceptual in any case. As to "comparative" reviews, I think, again, we're looking at a different type of review -- a scholarly review intended not to educate the public per se, or to provide insights valuable to individuals looking for poetry to read, but to stake an academic claim regarding the current state of poetics. While I'll admit the risks inherent in _that_ kind of reviewing are the same as in the sort of reviewing I'm speaking of, I also think such reviews are much more likely to be written, as you say, by those who are in some way or another outsiders (willfully or otherwise). And in fact, contrary to what we've been saying, there certainly _are_ working poets (i.e. insiders) who have made a name for themselves through nasty poetry reviews -- as a ploy it sometimes "works" -- so we should be careful about equating negativity with earnestness.
I think we might disagree about faith: In poetry, unlike the community I came to poetry from (the law), there never have been and never will be policies in place to create clear ethical structures. So I think it's more dangerous to think "faith" plays no role as to any particular segment of the poetry community than to sadly concede, as I do, that it _must_ do so in _every_ segment. That doesn't mean I don't strongly dislike that phenomenon.
As to your final point, there's a lot I could say. Mostly: I think you're right, just not in the way you might intend. Scholarship that unmoors people from modes of thinking they've been comfortable with for years is necessarily destructive in certain respects; it contributes to the community, but it also tears down before it builds up. Only someone with a strong distaste for poetry could engage in such destructiveness and not feel, on some level, that that sort of activity was a poor reflection -- at least as to its _immediate_ effects -- of how they feel about poetry. I found myself with an opportunity to engage in a purely generative pursuit which would in every respect (i.e., in both immediate and conceptual senses) accurately circumscribe my love of poetry. What people cannot or refuse to see (or see but deny, due to ideology or self-interest) in my MFA research _no one_ struggles to see in my reviewing. But it is the same love of poetry -- and truth -- in both instances. So...
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...reviewing allows me to express my love of poetry in different ways, and yes, hopefully it makes that same love of poetry more evident in the other work I do. In simpler terms: There are so many ways to contribute to one's community without simply engaging in cronyism -- which is of course merely egotism in disguise -- and as someone who's been interested in, and trying to, contribute as best he can to his community, I'm thrilled to explore any/every outlet I can.
What you've spoken of, without endorsing, is the flip-side to what I've said above: The same actions on my part, with a different but related interpretation, i.e. that it's possible for one to be motivated by careerism rather altruism, and one can never distinguish between the two easily where a single activity could equally be explained with the more optimistic or more cynical explanation. But -- having said that -- I'll say this much: One of the additional reasons Juliana Spahr is right that poets don't volunteer on behalf of their community or others is precisely what we're discussing, i.e. in the poetry community anything you do that people conceivably could like, or which conceivably could get you attention, will immediately be responded to with (and I've gotten these exact words), "I don't get it -- what's your angle?"
My angle is that the poetry community was not and is not my "first" community: My first community was and always will be the public defender community, or we might go further back and say it's the tradition of progressive Judaism that brought me to public defense in the first place, which is that if you're in a position to do good you _do it_, and there doesn't _have_ to be a "why" other than that it's the right thing to do. Most poets I know don't acknowledge or in any sense participate in that tradition, and so to them I must have an "angle."
To them I say this: Go ahead; stick your neck out; do something unpopular in this community; or even just do something _visible_ in this community besides writing poetry; and when the sinister element of the poetry community that is purely destructive comes out from under its rock -- which will take no more than two ticks of the clock -- you tell _me_ how confident you could _possibly_ feel that, if were inclined to think this way, taking such a risk could actually be _helping_ your career. I think there's as much anger over me choosing to review poetry in The Huffington Post -- to "put myself out there" as someone who others might theoretically care to read prose by -- as anything else I've done. It's seen as presumptuous, arrogant, foolhardy, &c. The only way to actually feel _loved_ in this community is to a) directly kiss up to people in person, or b) simply write poetry people like and do _nothing else_ for the community, and those are two options I reject out of hand. So whenever anyone sees potential careerism in working your ass off for no compensation and more criticism than compliments, I really do think that, as to altruism in the poetry community, don't knock it until you've tried it. I stopped making decisions about what to do or not do on the basis of how the community will respond _years_ ago -- because I don't trust the values of the community to match the ones I was raised with, frankly.
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So I have to make (as I suppose we all do, finally) all my decisions based on _my_ values and what _I_ need to do to be proud of the life I've lived. In any case, FWIW, I was much more successful publishing poems prior to the MFA research becoming public in late 2008. So if my aims had been careerist, and I were an empiricist, I would've just ditched the MFA research altogether, right? And just done either a) nothing, or b) the reviewing, if I thought it was good for my image, which I don't in any sense take on faith?
Anyway, the bottom line is that I will never undo the damage my MFA research has and is doing to certain interest groups -- and not just for that reason, but because I really don't care, nothing I do going forward will be an attempt to ameliorate that which cannot be ameliorated.
That's my response to the theoretical attack you mentioned, Mike; I can appreciate wholeheartedly that you were not positing it yourself. As to the reviews, I'll just say again that I distinguish between reviews intended to serve the community and reviews intended to serve the interests of scholarship -- negativism in the former is pointless; in the latter, possibly necessary. Which is why I say again that either our very best poets will never write reviews, or they will find a way to write reviews that carry no negativity within them, or they will be idiots who long ago found so many ways to piss off their community that nothing they do now (of whatever stripe) could mend the rift they've created, even if they were inclined to sacrifice their own values to mend it.
Be well,
Seth
P.S. I hadn't yet had the chance to read the ongoing conversation you linked to, I'll do so ASAP.
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